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The RebelRebel Podcast is a regular dive into the hearts and minds of creative rebels and entrepreneurs.

We talk about life, the universe, and what makes us get up every morning with a bounce in our step; or hard-earned advice on how to best claw your way across the kitchen floor to get that first cup of coffee.

Sometimes it’s about deadlines and exploring limitations, but mostly it’s about challenging ourselves and the world to make a difference and not play small.

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Outstanding Business Series

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Outstanding Business Series, Best Host, Outstanding Title Theme, Outstanding Original Music

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Mar 27, 2024

"I haven't given up on my trumpet."

Guest: John Lumgair, JAZZCOW.CO.UK

This episode of The RebelRebel Podcast features an engaging conversation between host Michael Dargie and guest John Lumgair, the creative mind behind an animated sitcom project called Jazz Cow. Lumgair shares the origins and inspirations behind Jazz Cow, an animated sitcom about a jazz-playing cow leading a resistance movement against algorithms, fake filters, and a technocracy that diminishes human creativity and interaction.

The story unfolds as Lumgair describes the project's journey from a humorous concept among friends to a potential animated series seeking funding through Kickstarter. The conversation delves into Lumgair's past, exploring his love for drawing, animation, and storytelling, which eventually led him to create Jazz Cow.

The discussion also touches on Lumgair's challenges and aspirations, highlighting the importance of community, creativity, and perseverance in the face of technological conformity.

Stuff John Says

"Jazz Cow is about a jazz playing cow... leading the resistance against algorithms and fake filters."
"The world we're surrounded by now, with all these technocratic... people, they have disproportionate influence in our lives."
"I haven't given up on my trumpet... even when I've been poor, I've never sold it."
"Animation takes ages, and the writing process... writers don't get paid enough, which is always a problem."

Episode Highlights

  • Introduction of Jazz Cow, an animated sitcom about a jazz-playing cow leading a resistance movement.
  • John Lumgair's background in animation and storytelling.
  • The inspiration behind Jazz Cow and its journey from concept to Kickstarter project.
  • Challenges faced by creatives in a world dominated by technology and algorithms.
  • The importance of community and collaboration in creative projects.

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